I-864 - Affidavit of Support - Contract

Rogbo · #1 (**permalink**) 03-17-2010, 08:06 PM

Has any one had any personal experience or first hand knowledge of the US Government enforcing the conditions of the I-864, Affidavit of Support, contract, for whatever reason?

***HonkyTonk*** · #2 (**permalink**) 03-17-2010, 08:29 PM

No, I've not known it to be enforced and I've known of a few divorces to foreign latinas personally. Should a man be concerned about it? Only a fool wouldn't.

John Wayne · #3 (**permalink**) 03-17-2010, 09:31 PM

That is my problem now, a tourist visa is no problem, but a perminate residency visa requires that you make something like 125% above the poverty level in the last one to three years, and back it up with tax statements to be a sponsor.....

Boy;s and Girl's I would definitely go with the tourist or Fiance visa to start.....

You can always change lanes later on as the coupling progresses in a positive manner..

Oh and go to the local Embassy and make friends there, join in their little get togethers and get to know them...

Be honest with them, hide nothing, they work for us, not the other way around.....

Ya know I am an independent contractor in Nicaragua, sometimes I make 3K for the month and sometimes I only make 1K for the month, but I get along well on it.....

But if she or he wants to go to work, now we talking The other lane....

They catch you or her in a lie you are screwed.....

And with the tourist visa, big deal so he or she has to leave the country for 2 day's every six months, take a vacation to Mexico, Canada, or go on a cruse to the Bahamas.....

But if she wants to work in the USA, NOW we talking the other lane of papers.....

I would go the tourist visa if it were me....

At least till I was sure of her intentions.....

RexB · #4 (**permalink**) 03-28-2010, 12:02 PM

Rogbo, go to this web site. When you are there type in "Stump v Stump". You will read about what you are asking. www.ilw.com.

Tim413 · #5 (**permalink**) 04-06-2010, 06:14 PM

RexB thanks for the reply!!!!! This is helpful information.

One of our friends, who is from Colombia and she came here on a K-3 visa, US husband left her and their daughters. First, she tried to get her husband back, but he is in love with a woman from Peru who he never met, and is sending money to her.

The US husband is from Porto Rico and knows all the tricks, so he and his family are really being jerks. They are trying to drive this lady crazy. If this was a movie, it would be fun to watch, but it is real.

This guy is trying to get this lady and their two girls(2 year and 5 years) to move to a shelter and get on welfare. He does not want to pay them anything.

She went to a divorce layer who said this guy does not have to pay anything because they have not been married for more than 20 years, and the only way to get any money was to go to court.

My thoughts are that by the time this lady went to court and got this guy to pay the 125% of poverty would be two years. What are your thoughts?

Tim

Rogbo · #6 (**permalink**) 04-06-2010, 08:37 PM

Thanks Rex, good read. Yep thats a scary document

***HonkyTonk*** · #7 (**permalink**) 04-06-2010, 08:47 PM

"What are your thoughts? Tim413

Sure would like to hear the other side of the story.

***Gringos*** · #8 (**permalink**) 04-07-2010, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Tim413

One of our friends who is from Colombian and she came here on a K-3 visa, the US husband left her and their daughters. First, she tried to get her husband back, but he is in love with a woman from Peru who he never met and is sending money to her. The US husband is from Puerto Rico and knows all the tricks so he and his family are really being jerks. They are trying to drive this lady crazy. If this was a movie, it would be fun to watch, but it is real. This guy is trying to get this lady and their two girls (2 year and 5 years) to move to a shelter and get on welfare. He does not want to pay them anything. She went to a divorce layer who said this guy does not have to pay anything because they have not been married for more than 20 years, and the only way to get any money was to go to court. My thoughts are that by the time this lady went to court and got this guy to pay the 125% of poverty would be two years. What are your thoughts?

Tim -
This is precisely why no man/woman should ever marry unless he/she has twice the value and worth as her/him. Then, and only then should the man/woman entertain the idea of marriage. To those of you that do need follow this advice, if your loving marriage should ever end in divorce, you will be in a world of hurt. And if kids are involved you might want to check yourself in to a Mental Hospitol.

My advice is leave them alone and let them sort out their own problems.

Divorce = Financial Trauma

Sailover · #9 (**permalink**) 04-07-2010, 02:03 PM

Ray makes a good point, BUT the male-female relationship is the very basis of humanity. If we waited until everything was perfect, we would start to die off in a generation. Sometimes you have to take a chance. If you get effed, learn from it and move on. One of the biggest issues is that women are much more empowered in this time, and not just American women. A Latin woman can be more of a handful than her American sister when she is allowed free rein. And for whatever reason, men let them get away with it. If men just said ENOUGH, or NO more often, things wouldn't go out of control the way they do. But they are afraid of women. If you do find a woman that you believe would be a good partner, of course be romantic, nice, generous and all that ****e. But DON'T be a pushover. It is in the female nature to want control and to micro manage. Fine, whatever. Just let her know she can't control YOU. And for the love of God, do it EARLY! It isn't something you can introduce into the relationship down the road, because you will be.
Just one point of view.

***Gringos*** · #10 (**permalink**) 04-07-2010, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Sailover

Ray makes a good point, BUT the male-female relationship is the very basis of humanity. If we waited until everything was perfect, we would start to die off in a generation. Sometimes you have to take a chance. If you get effed, learn from it and move on. One of the biggest issues is that women are much more empowered in this time, and not just American women. A Latin woman can be more of a handful than her American sister when she is allowed free rein. And for whatever reason, men let them get away with it. If men just said ENOUGH, or NO more often, things wouldn't go out of control the way they do. But they are afraid of women. If you do find a woman that you believe would be a good partner, of course be romantic, nice, generous and all that ****e. But DON'T be a pushover. It is in the female nature to want control and to micro manage. Fine, whatever. Just let her know she can't control YOU. And for the love of God, do it EARLY!

Excellent observations from a true old skool vet.