info from NOW

[aliendroid]

this is from a new forum for the IMBRA.

http://filipinalady.org/internationa....php?p=421#421

""WOW N.O.W. update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE READ!!!!! As of Jan 28, 2006. This law is only the beginning. We need to fight it now to stop the cancer from spreading. Now that this law is on the books, it won't stop here. N.O.W. has both the Federal and State politicians behind them. With the IMBRA law in effect, N.O.W. has their foot in the door to try to get more laws passed to levy against an IMB website and their clients. Including special taxes by the state and federal governments. A phone conversation with a N.O.W. representative indicated next they will ask states to levy a special tax. In other words, like cigarettes, a special tax that will make us raise our membership prices and doing business impossible (next it will be required to get some kind of insurance). If you don't believe it, wait a year from now. Even though this law is in effect, fighting it now may stop the spread of cancer this law will impose. The more requirements implemented because of this law, the harder it will be to fight. We need more then 2, 3, 4, 10, 12, IMBs fighting this, we need HUNDREDS. N.O.W. has thousands. We need all IMBs and their members who believe in freedom of choice to stop the spread of an unfair and unconstitutional law. N.O.W.'s cancer is upon us and spreading -- Sign the petition, get others to sign the petition, IMBs get your members to sign the petition, write your congressman, DO something OR next our Love will be TAXED. Our WORDS alone won't stop this cancer -- our only chance is to ACT or GIVE IN to N.O.Ws power to convince politicians that their way is the BEST way. ""

We need to start doing something. Everyone do something every day. We also need to organize everything onto one website. One central hub, like the NOW lesbians. lol.

[Austin]

noble sentiments to be sure. i have signed the petition. however, i think we're outgunned...hate the damn politicians and feminists.

[LastLion]

It will change again someday as the american man gives up on the american woman. The pendulaum swing both ways. They are opening up a bunny ranch in Nevada for women soon, with men.. Pretty soon after that, the feminists will have to go somewhere else to find a man and maybe even somewhere else to find a woman,ja ja ja ja because they won't be able to put up with them damn selves here...

[aliendroid]

I'm posting something about this in my student doctor network. Access to 65,000+, medical field students and university students. I'll post it in the lounge, they're almost all dudes complaining about women anyway. I'm going to get killed if some SS femolezzies find me in person for this. Or maybe a moderator will remove the post in like 5 minutes.

[aliendroid]

better yet ill wait until monday peak hours to send it. lol. the mods might miss it.

[aliendroid]

This is what I'm going to post. Yall should take this too and forward to all your email contacts and post on all forums you know men visit. Suggest changes if you see anything that needs changing.

Your rights being trashed because people don't get along. Send this to as many contacts as you can.

Do you know what the new IMBRA law is?
http://imbra.org/pages/1/index.htm

Ok, I'm getting sick of my 1st amendment being put aside. Maybe the board will let me speak my mind and leave my post alone. Or I might get canned. lol.

The run down:
Some men each year go to other countries to look for a girlfriend whom they plan to marry. They do this because women in some other countries tend to be unchanged by changing views on gender roles. They will be more feminine, often times better looking, slim, etc etc. Feminists have taken notice of this. They used two murder cases as a basis for taking a new law the IMBRA onto the violence against women bill that just passed. It was a backdoor underhanded way of removing your rights and especially the rights of men. NOW is currently working on more laws to further restrictions. This does not just involve the typical idea of mail order brides, but any man who meets a woman in a foreign country.
My example, I met my girlfriend online who lives in another country. I had to turn to a K1 fiancée visa, which I think is often used by the US military. The new law requires that I spend about 500 extra dollars in sending my fiancée records from many different data bases on my past checking to see if I have a history of violence. If my girlfriend were a US citizen I would not have to send her these records. Thus, foreign women are protected from American men yet American women are not protected. Feminists hate groups passed this bill. Yes, foreign women should be protected but not like this. This is stupid. This is a violation of my rights. The law also effects other men who wish to meet women in another country. They must send this same packet of background information just to email someone. Foreigners are being protected from Americans, yet I thought our government was supposed to protect us from foreigners. The two murder cases represent a very tiny fraction of the total number of women murdered in the USA each year. They have two cases. About 50,000 women move to the USA to marry each year, of them about 10,000 are mail order brides or can be considered as such under this law.
Taken that this has gone on since the beginning of our nation and that the average age of arriaval is about 25 y.o. and the average life expectancy thereafter is about 50 years. We expect to have at least 50*10,000 women who met their husbands on marriage brokerage sites living within the USA. 500,000 women. There are probably more. 2 murders / 500,000 women = 2 / 5 / 500,000/5 = 0.4 / 100,000 or 0.4 women per 100,000 over 50 years. 0.4/50 /100,000 = 0.08 women / 100,000 nationalized women from the same category.

Look at the average murder rate of women domestically. NOW publishes that 1,400 women in the USA die each year to domestic violence. 1,400 / 290,000,000 = 1,400 / 2900 / 290,000,000/2900 = 0.48 / 100,000 or 0.48 women in 100,000 women are killed per year in domestic violence.

For foreign women married to American men:
0.08 women / 100,000 foreign women are murdered by their husband/boyfriend

For American women married to American men:
0.48 women / 100,000 foreign women are murdered by their husband/boyfriend

For Colombian women married to Colombian men:
8 women / 100,000 foreign women are murdered by their husband/boyfriend

Look at the data folks and yet people in other countries are being told that American men are animals that commit domestic violence against foreign women. Not true. These relationships seem to be better due to the fact that there is such a low rate of domestic violence between American men and foreign women.

Based on the data women from Colombia that marry with an American man are 100 times less likely to die at the hands of their own husband. This shows the great negligence in NOW and other feminist groups in doing any valid research or thinking before they do something stupid like take away my rights of privacy so to protect a woman from entering into a marriage that is going to save her life. Social security numbers, and other identification data will be at risk as it is sent outside of the country.

In the end it is just a tactic, a ploy to control us (men) like cattle. To lie about us and perpetuate the "ugly American" ideology that is spreading around the world.

Here is a quote from a feminist about our attempt to do something about this:

"Hey boys. Nice try! It's too late it is law. You have a little over 100 signatures in 2 or 3 days. I can get that in 10 minutes with one email. It is too late to network (if you know how) and try to change something that is law. But keep trying while us women will keep networking, getting larger, more powerful and passing just laws for a just cause. Good Luck!" NOW Member

http://internationalmarriagebrokers.com/id21.html

"WOW N.O.W. update!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PLEASE READ!!!!! As of Jan 28, 2006. This law is only the beginning. We need to fight it now to stop the cancer from spreading. Now that this law is on the books, it won't stop here. N.O.W. has both the Federal and State politicians behind them. With the IMBRA law in effect, N.O.W. has their foot in the door to try to get more laws passed to levy against an IMB website and their clients. Including special taxes by the state and federal governments. A phone conversation with a N.O.W. representative indicated next they will ask states to levy a special tax. In other words, like cigarettes, a special tax that will make us raise our membership prices and doing business impossible (next it will be required to get some kind of insurance). If you don't believe it, wait a year from now. Even though this law is in effect, fighting it now may stop the spread of cancer this law will impose. The more requirements implemented because of this law, the harder it will be to fight. We need more then 2, 3, 4, 10, 12, IMBs fighting this, we need HUNDREDS. N.O.W. has thousands. We need all IMBs and their members who believe in freedom of choice to stop the spread of an unfair and unconstitutional law. N.O.W.'s cancer is upon us and spreading -- Sign the petition, get others to sign the petition, IMBs get your members to sign the petition, write your congressman, DO something OR next our Love will be TAXED. Our WORDS alone won't stop this cancer -- our only chance is to ACT or GIVE IN to N.O.Ws power to convince politicians that their way is the BEST way."

from the same site.

Gentleman, when NOW is done, you better not dare look at that Brazilian girl in your class! You better stay in line and get love and relationships when you deserve, which will be determined by your local women, who by the way use this as a weapon to hurt you. How many of you are depressed, or feel self-loathing. How many of you think of suicide all the time. That's because you are oppressed and you are not getting any lovin'. You are losers who were made into losers by your pathetic station in life. Ok, enough of the motivation, just get out there and sign both these petitions. See we have two, because we are not organized.

http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takea...ltl=1137856749
http://new.petitiononline.com/imbra05/petition.html

Also educate other men.
PM me for questions.

I have one more quote:

Republicans and Democrats alike find this law to be over the top. I was looking at this book online. Feminist decided to post comments and low ratings to drive the book out of publication or something. Read it, it's very hitlerish.

http://tinyurl.com/baobr
I pulled out the quote, but you can find it buried deep in the comments.

""This book is potentially one more nail in the coffin of feminism and the less people (especially men) that read it the better. The truth or plausibility of the book's content is not the issue. Rather, will people who read it actually believe it and act or change their attitudes negatively toward feminists and feminism. That is why we are all here trying to drive down the ratings - so people will not buy and read it.
Feminists managed to prevent publication of Esther Vilar's book, "THE MANIPULATED MAN" (go ahead, Google it) in the US. We can do it again. [Ended up being published notwithstanding feminist fascism]
This is a very effective strategy. As an example of very recent censorship and thought control, we recently managed to pass the INTERNATIONAL MARRIAGE BROKER REGULATION ACT. This law was crafted to stem the rapidly growing trend of American men, who seek to escape the feminist agenda, from contacting (that's right buster - you can't even send her a love letter) meeting and eventually marrying non-feminist foreign women. The strategy was to eliminate or censor websites that promote the "message" that it is acceptable to desire and actually marry women "unspoiled" by American materialism and most troubling, "uninfected" by American feminism. This message is impeding the progress of feminism here at home and gives American men the idea that it is acceptable to not respect feminist principles that took so long to instill upon them.
The marriage broker websites tell American men that they are highly desirable outside the U.S. and can have access to women not intent on upholding over 30 years of hard won women's rights. These sites also offensively elaborate on the reasons for rejecting American women as part of a campaign to promote the desirability of foreign women. Certainly, the existence of this industry is indicative of the sad state of romantic relationships between men and women in North America; however, we will not change our ways under the threat of young slim family-oriented foreign women invading our shores.
The Marriage Broker Regulation Act is working!! The foreign matchmaking websites are shutting down. Keep up the good work and lets shut this book down too!!!""


"censorship and thought control"
"strategy was to eliminate or censor websites that promote the "message" that"
"..respect feminist principles that took so long to instill upon them."[dude this is just scary, I never knew I had something like this instilled upon me]

Can you remind me why feminists are related to nazis? This is really freaking me out. There's nothing really to say.

Feminists are overreacting to this foreign matching service. Men don't marry foreign women to avoid feminism, they do it for those nice tanned bodies. Well whatever the reason, little boy if that girl in class has an accent and if she isn't a feminist then you are not allowed to date her. You are not allowed to look at her.

Male suicide rates in the last three decades have increased dramatically while female suicide rates remain at a very low level. Are you going to kill yourselves or are you going to stand up for yourselves. Sign the petitions and become educated.

Here's a good site.
http://www.mens-network.org/
Don't read those nutty nomarriage sites either, just learn and fight for your rights.

p.s. this post makes a good email to forward to all your email contacts.

[Cap'n Jib]

Law,

Your views are much appreciated. I have to admit that I have not run across this material before and it really disturbs me. Having two daughters, I’ve always wanted what was best for them and have encouraged them to independent and think for themselves. The question comes down to “How to define BEST”. I have been a strong believer in ‘equal opportunity’ and ‘equality of the sexes’ for my daughters. Like most parents I would expect, I just wanted freedom of choice and opportunity for them.

Now after some soul searching I have discovered two things. One, I do indeed have a soul and Two, it is not a happy camper.

The uneasiness I feel is the discovery expresssed by the cartoon character POGO who stated “We have met the enemy and ‘they’ is we! What I want individually for my daughters may not be right for society at large.

I suspect it is the same with shortcuts. Shortcuts work fine until they blow up in your face. Shortcuts are the proverbial moral hazzard. We tend to ignore the risk associated with taking them and when they don’t work we use the excuse that the shortcut worked in the past. We then tend to blame the shortcut for failing in the present. Duh!

I think it is time for me to come out of the closet. I am born again ‘Cultural Anthropologist’. For many years I was too busy earning a living instead of living. I applied my craft to earning a buck with the occasional nod to appreciating cultural differences. All societies create ‘solutions’ to their perceived problems and at some level all solutions are valid. This is the environment that we refer to as ‘culture’. In short, it is nothing more than a tool for the society to cope and survive. Perhaps this is why those on this board find the Latin culture in general and Latinas in particular so appealing. I may express further opinions on this later.

Culture can also be thought of as a skin. We do not feel comfortable in our US cultural skin. We are changing from one type of culture into a unisex culture where neither sex feels comfortable and we suspect that we are our own worst enemy by persuing this course of action and maybe unable to stop ourselves. In my case it is simple IF I care to face the truth...I want it all for my daughters even though the culture and society may be destroyed in the outcome.

The organization NOW at some level must realizes the harm they are doing. A problem with any group is that it outgrows its’ mandate if it does not effectively police itself. Look at all of our governmental agencies for further examples. NOW appears to have entered the ‘moral hazzard’ zone. They need not worry about the risk of destroying our society because they KNOW that their overall cause is just and right. Fascism? Definitely delusional!

Law, again thanks!

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I am a ass. Recently I made a perfect ass of myself. A man must start somewhere on the road to perfection. - Cap'n Jib

[HonkyTonk]

"What I want individually for my daughters may not be right for society at large."

Jib, don't sell yourself short. I also have 2 daughters I raised not to be any man's doormat. I don't have to apologize for squat! Suck it up and realize you raised them well.

If anyone on this Board thinks you messed up, for them I say:

Keep your misfit gringoass attitude out of LAm and go to Bangkok where I doubt you'll get laid with $100 bills squirting out your ass!

Long live a father's love for his daughters (sons). The Grim Reaper will visit them sooner than later if they mess with one of my own...

[Lostagain]

Unfourtunately, what we want for our own daughters isn't always want we want to do with other men's daughters.

[John]

LostAgain- you took the words out of my mouth.

Even though I don't have any children, my eyes see it this way:
///\\\Fortunately what we want for our own daughters isn't...what we want to do with other men's daughters///\\\

I like the "what we want to do with other men's daughters" part better.